http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4175713.stm
Mr Ridge told BBC News 24's HARDtalk: "By and large, as a matter of policy we need to state over and over again: we do not condone the use of torture to extract information from terrorists."「人道のためなら武力行使もやむなし」にちょっと似てるような気が。
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But he said it was "human nature" that torture might be employed in certain exceptional cases when time was very limited.
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In the event of something like a nuclear bomb threat "you would try to exhaust every means you could to extract the information to save hundreds and thousands of people", he said.